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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Dec 29, 2009 4:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: The Best of 1981?

I have made no effort here, to hide my utter disdain for the Grateful Dead's performances during the 80's. But in spite of my loathing of the music from this period, with the exception of the acoustic sets (from both 1980 & 1981), the truth is that I do on a very rare occasion, dust off something from 1981.

I attended eight shows during 1981; including 5/16, which I might consider the second best show out of approximately 100 that I saw, as well as 5/6 which I consider to be an excellent show, and the 3/9 performance that I do not regard as highly.

In addition to the acoustic sets from '81, once in a blue moon I might listen to one of the Melk Weg shows or perhaps the Barcelona performance, from what I consider the last consistently half-decent tour the band undertook.

In an effort to broaden my horizons, I'm soliciting recommendations for what you 80's zealots consider the best shows of 1981. If you have a recommendation for me, please tell me why you enjoy that show. No audience recordings please. Thank you for your help!

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Dec 29, 2009 5:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Best of 1981?

Billy Dillions did a good job above...9/12 is one show that alot of folks like, but the sound quality is brittle and too trebly...another "what if?" show...

absolutely check out the 12/30 first set, it's a show with featured guests, but the boys play what is essentially an extended first set...probably my vote for the best Rooster (Weir shines on the slide, did I just say that?, but Garcia just rips it up big time), Cumberland is smoking and Lazy Lightning is quite good...Dire Wolf is a stand-out, one of the best electric versions, and Althea is great...highly recommended set...little known, but a true gem...http://www.archive.org/details/gd81-12-30.sbd.munder.8211.sbeok.shnf

12-27-1981 is pretty good too

http://www.archive.org/details/gd81-12-30.sbd.munder.8211.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Dec 29, 2009 6:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Best of 1981?

http://www.archive.org/details/gd81-07-04.sbd.samaritano-miller.21802.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Dec 29, 2009 6:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Best of 1981?

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-01-02.late.sbd.hanno.12624.sbefail.shnf

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Poster: billydlions Date: Dec 29, 2009 5:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Best of 1981?

1981 was not a good year for sbd's, although the audience recordings are mostly excellent, but to honor your request here are some of my favorite shows is sbd format:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1981-05-15.sbd.miller.86783.sbeok.flac16

I went to Rutgers, so I'm biased but this is a great show. This may be my favorite Franklin's Tower, Scralet/Fire/Estimated/Eyes is all very well played.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd81-07-13.sbd.lai.3903.sbefail.shnf

The whole show stands out- Stranger, CC Rider-Althea was a potent combo the whole year. Again a great Scarlet-Fire and my personal favorite version of Sugar Mags.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd81-08-28.sbd-patched.painoman.9572.sbeok.shnf

the 2nd set is well known for the Wheel-Good Times sequence and the slow Shakedown. Also a nice Spanish Jam which was played quite a bit in 1981.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd81-09-26.sbd.miller.18110.sbeok.shnf

not the best sbd, but the Let it Grow, Playing in the Band- Bertha make this a must have.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd81-10-12.sbd.macdonald.7916.sbeok.shnf

http://www.archive.org/details/gd81-10-19.sbd.macdonald.7914.sbeok.shnf

The whole Europe tour is outstanding. I dont think it's their last good/consistent tour as summer of 82 is worthy and perhaps fall '83 as well. The show on the 19th is one of the reasons I've argued here that Garcia was at the top of his game in '81. Listen to all of his solos and you can just here how he crafts each one so uniquely- I dont know how else to describe it, so just listen with headphones on (unfortunately you cant hear him on the 1st 2 songs).

http://www.archive.org/details/gd81-12-05.sbd.clugston.5488.sbeok.shnf

So many highlights from this show- the double time CC Rider, Lost-St of Circum really peaked this year, Passenger on fire, one of the best let it Grows, Big RR is the 2nd set.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1981-12-09.sbd.miller.87349.sbeok.flac16

I forgot about this show, many of the great jams songs of the era in 1 show (Cassidy, Birdsong, China-Rider, Scarlet-Fire)



This post was modified by billydlions on 2009-12-30 01:13:17

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Poster: vapors Date: Dec 30, 2009 10:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Best of 1981?

Been away and catching up on posts – this place has been rocking! (except for this mornings silly detours) Keep the faith Cliff – (don’t feed the trolls, remember?)

Two of the three shows I thankfully attended in ’81 have been covered – Ithaca 5/16 and Buffalo 9/16. Just for the satisfaction of joining in here I’ll throw out my third – Glens Falls 5/5. No sbd, but this aud is pretty nice: http://www.archive.org/details/gd81-05-05.nak300-mow.ford.28356.sbeok.flac . Certainly not a contender for the best show of 1981, but listening to it today( along with other above recommendations) it still sounds fresh and fine to me. Naturally I am biased by the memory of the great trip I had there and on the return ride back to school…

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 30, 2009 11:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Best of 1981?

Good advice, D! Yep, this place has really been rolling along nicely thru the Holidays...really impressive.

Hope Holidays are going well with you and yours...

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Poster: vapors Date: Dec 30, 2009 12:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Best of 1981?

Going real fine, thanks - same back at you.
Home from a road trip with my kids. Kind of funny that I was just reminiscing with them about my excursions from college in ’81 & ’82 to see the boys!

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Poster: pHurthur Date: Dec 29, 2009 4:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Best of 1981?

Try this run.. NYE Too

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1981-12-31.sbd.fix.walker-scottor.miller.96107.flac24

Grateful Dead - December 31, 1981
Oakland Auditorium - Oakland, CA
**THIS IS A 24BIT SOURCE**

Recording Info:
SBD -> Cassette Master (Nakamichi 550/Maxell UDXLII-S90)

Transfer Info:
Cassette Master (Nakamichi DR-1) -> Sound Devices 744T (24bit/96k) ->
Adobe Audition v1.5 -> Samplitude Professional v10.1 -> FLAC/24
(2 DVDs FLAC)

All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller
charliemiller87@earthlink.net
November 28, 2008

Patch Info:
(FOB) Nakamichi 100 -> Cassette Master -> Cassette (shnid=85628) supplies:
Terrapin Station (12:47 - 13:03)
Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad (6:54 - 7:01)

Notes:
-- This has fixed levels on s3t02, s3t03 and s3t04
-- Joan Baez is backed by The Grateful Dead during her acoustic set
-- C C Rider, Big Boss Man, Minglewood and Iko with Matthew Kelly
-- Roses, BIODTL, Don't Ease Me In and Baby Blue with Joan Baez
-- The Other One, Not Fade Away and GDTRFB with John Cippolina
-- This is an upgrade to all previous circulating copies
-- Patch source was EQ'd and pitch corrected
-- Thanks to Joani Walker and Paul Scotton for the tapes
-- Thanks to Joe B. Jones for his help with the pitch correction

Joan Baez Acoustic Set:
s1t01 - Land Of A Thousand Dances
s1t02 - Do Right Woman
s1t03 - The Boxer
s1t04 - Tunisian New Year Song
s1t05 - Me & Bobby McGee
s1t06 - Bye Bye Love
s1t07 - Lucifer's Eyes
s1t08 - Children Of The 80's
s1t09 - Banks Of The Ohio

Set 1:
s2t01 - Shakedown Street
s2t02 - Me And My Uncle ->
s2t03 - Mexicali Blues
s2t04 - Cold Rain And Snow
s2t05 - C C Rider
s2t06 - It Must Have Been The Roses ->
s2t07 - Beat It On Down The Line
s2t08 - Big Boss Man ->
s2t09 - New Minglewood Blues
s2t10 - Don't Ease Me In

Set 2:
s3t01 - Ken Kesey Banter/Midnight Countdown
s3t02 - Iko Iko
s3t03 - Playing In The Band ->
s3t04 - Terrapin Station ->
s3t05 - Playing In The Band ->
s3t06 - Drums ->
s3t07 - Space ->
s3t08 - The Other One ->
s3t09 - Not Fade Away ->
s3t10 - Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad ->
s3t11 - Morning Dew

Set 3:
s4t01 - Dark Star ->
s4t02 - Bertha ->
s4t03 - Good Lovin'

Encore:
s4t04 - It's All Over Now, Baby Blue
s4t05 - The Chinese Joke



This post was modified by pHurthur on 2009-12-30 00:56:55

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 30, 2009 4:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Best of 1981?

Ha--hey PH, these are almost my "last" shows (that I attended)...I went to a few more during summer of 82, but these were the last ones in the Bay Area...never did like OAK. Haven't ever listened to any of them all these yrs later. I just always feel old and have an urge to comment on it when someone posts about a show I was "at"...

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Poster: pHurthur Date: Dec 30, 2009 7:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Best of 1981?

Tell, I really can't beleive you are ditchin' Oakland after being allowed to camp-out downtown.

....in 1981 I was here in the mud, blood, beer, lightening, and lost sailor's pub. Still have the scar.

08-30-81
Compton Terrace Amphitheatre
Tempe, Az.
Half Step>
Franklin's
MinglewoodTe
nnessee Jed
Mama Tried>
Mexicali
Roses
BIODTL
Cumberland
L. L. Rain>
Might As Well

Samson
Ship Of Fools
Estimated>
He's Gone>
Drumz>
Other One>
Stella Blue>
GDTRFB>
Good Lovin

Don't Ease

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 30, 2009 8:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Best of 1981?

Was there too! That was in fact my last! The dust, pre rain, was a bit much, eh? So, if I may, was this toward the beginning of "yours" (I am just assuming you're a kid--meant with respect/affection, no slight) or had you made it to any in the 70s?

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Poster: pHurthur Date: Dec 30, 2009 1:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Best of 1981?

what sorta fagweed are you smoking now WT ?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 30, 2009 1:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Best of 1981?

Huh?

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Poster: rastamon Date: Dec 30, 2009 1:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Best of 1981?

no doubt a reference to the SouthPark video

I clicked the photobucket Icon and there's a photo of a lady with face paint that says "No War" I totally agree...as long as the bad guys do

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 30, 2009 2:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Best of 1981?

Right, but I still don't get the connection to my post...? Call me dense.

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Poster: pHurthur Date: Dec 30, 2009 6:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Best of 1981?

It's o.k. Tell. Not that there is anything wrong with that... HAVE A GRATEFUL NYE !

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Poster: clashcity Date: Dec 29, 2009 5:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Best of 1981?

Try the Uptown run from Feb., although I think the shows you saw pretty much capture the year at it's best.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd81-02-26.sbd.lutch.4597.sbeok.shnf

http://www.archive.org/details/gd81-02-27.sbd.lutch.4598.sbeok.shnf

http://www.archive.org/details/gd81-02-28.sbd.lutch.4668.sbeok.shnf


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Poster: suasponte Date: Dec 30, 2009 7:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Best of 1981?

Cliff, you are still an idiot. Its cool that you are attempting to broaden your horizons. But, I thought you went to over 100 shows in the 80s, and they all sucked? Doesn't that make you an expert? Why ask for help?

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Poster: rastamon Date: Dec 30, 2009 10:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Best of 1981?

how 'bout a hug?

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Poster: tigerbolt Date: Dec 29, 2009 5:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Best of 1981?

cliff check out these two that get overlooked.
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1981-12-09.sbd.miller.87349.sbeok.flac16

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1981-12-27.sbd.gans.33568.sbeok.flac16
the meat of 12-27-81 is the best part.
Playing In The Band ->
Drums ->
Space ->
The Wheel ->
Playing In The Band ->
Wharf Rat ->

This post was modified by tigerbolt on 2009-12-30 01:21:07

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Poster: waynecs Date: Dec 30, 2009 1:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Best of 1981?

My favorite is 5/16 but you know about that one already.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Dec 30, 2009 6:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Best of 1981?

Hey Cliff:

A quick glance of the rec's so far shows no one mentioned my favorite show of '81, which just happens also to be one of the finest sounding AUDs on this whole site:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd81-05-01.wise.clugston.2218.sbeok.shnf

This show is brilliant...overlooked often because of what seems like a pedestrian set list. But if you are looking for an example of what '81 COULD BE in terms of every song being beautifully played, this is your show.

Highlights include a ridiculously hot LET IT GROW>DEAL to end set 1, a sweet ALTHEA, WHEEL, HE'S GONE and a darn good FRANKLIN'S as well.

I know you've already received a ton of recommendations already, but DO NOT let this one pass by.

and Happy New Year!

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 30, 2009 8:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Best of 1981?

Another nice "80's review thread" which is good to see...I really am impressed with the civility and knowledge of those involved, save a minor diversion or two...

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Poster: Dhamma1 Date: Dec 29, 2009 7:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Best of 1981?

Not an era with which I have significant experience, but a little over a year ago (Nov. '08) someone asked for the best shows of the 1980s. These were the 1981 shows that people mentioned then:


4 mentions 3/9/1981
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1981-03-09.sbd.miller.74220.sbeok.flac16

3 mentions 12/31/1981
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1981-12-31.sbd.gans.33660.sbeok.flac16

2 mentions 2/27/1981
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1981-02-27.mtx.chappell.sb02b.28384.sbeok.flac16

2 mentions 5/6/1981
http://www.archive.org/details/gd81-05-06.glassberg.vernon.17697.sbeok.shnf

2 mentions 9/26/1981
http://www.archive.org/details/gd81-09-26.sbd.miller.18110.sbeok.shnf



Mentioned by only one person:
5/16/1981
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1981-05-16.sbd.miller.30647.sbeok.flac16

8/1/1981
no URL provided

9/12/1981
no URL provided

10/12/1981
http://www.archive.org/details/gd81-10-12.sbd.macdonald.7916.sbeok.shnf

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